Tracy Collins [00:00:00]: We've been helping you plan UK trips for years, but what do we actually love? Favourite city, Favourite castle, Favourite train journey, Favourite meal. Ten categories, two opinions, and we did not always agree. Intro [00:00:13]: Welcome to the UK Travel Planning Podcast. Your host is the founder of the UK travel planning website, Tracey Collins. Each week, Tracey shares destination guides, travel tips and itinerary ideas, as well as interviews with a variety of guests who share their knowledge and experience of UK travel to help you plan your perfect UK vacation. Join us as we explore the uk from cosmopolitan cities to quaint villages, from historic castles to beautiful islands, and from the picturesque countryside to seaside towns. Tracy Collins [00:00:43]: Before we get started, we'd like to thank our sponsor. Walks and Devour Tours. If you're planning a trip to London, you'll already know the challenge. 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Now, today, it's kind of a slightly different episode of the podcast. I've kind of just said to Doug, this is what we're going to do. I was chatting to somebody the other day and I thought, oh, you know, we get asked a lot of time what our favorite things are. Favorite places, things, favorite experiences. Tracy Collins [00:02:02]: So basically I've come up with 10 categories, so places, foods, experience and moments that we've kind of enjoyed during our time living and traveling around the UK, which we're talking about nearly 60 years. Oh, that's really sad. I want to say that a little bit down. 60 years for me. Doug Collins [00:02:20]: Not quite 60 years just yet. Tracy Collins [00:02:23]: Not quite 60 years for you. Doug Collins [00:02:25]: Not far off to be fair, but yeah, yeah. Tracy Collins [00:02:27]: So it's kind of sharing that experience. Now, if you are listening to the podcast for the first Time. Just quick introduction. I'm Tracy Collins. I am the podcaster, writer, social media manager in general. Bossy boots behind a UK travel planning. And Doug's here again this week. Doug Collins [00:02:49]: Yeah, I'm the quiet person in the relationship. I'm Doug Collins. Worked for the railways for many, many years in the UK in many different roles. Tracy Collins [00:02:56]: So basically Doug was their train expert. So if you need any help with your UK train travel, Doug is a person to go to and ask. So we did also just want to, I guess just give a little bit of our background because it's. We do the podcast every week and I kind of don't really get into chatting a little bit about who we are on what we've done and we have got some podcasts. So a while back, Deborah interviewed us and asked us a whole lot of questions. I will share. I can't remember the number of the episode actually, but I'll share that in the show notes. So if you want to know a little bit more about myself and Doug, a cat. Tracy Collins [00:03:28]: And so a little bit of introduction. I was born in the northeast of England nearly 60 years ago, not too far from Hadrian's Wall. Lived in the UK until I was a teenager, then moved abroad. Since then I've actually lived in seven different countries across the world. Worked in seven different countries across the world as well. I did train as a history teacher, so that was my background for quite a few years. Then went into advising in teaching and then basically about 10 years ago or so it was about 10 years ago, decided I want to do a little bit of travel writing because I've always loved traveling. So started our first website which is Global Travel planning. Tracy Collins [00:04:02]: And then 2000 started the UK travel planning 2020. I should started UK travel planning and this podcast in 2022, I think it was. I think it's four years it's been going. Yeah. So we're basically experts on UK travel. What about you, Doug? Doug Collins [00:04:20]: Well, my story is not quite so interesting, but I'm born in Burton on Trent, which is in the middle of the Midlands, and I work for the railways for many, many years. I'm also a fully qualified registered nurse. So I just had a whole lifetime growing up. My father was on the railway, so even from a very young age I was traveling the railways all around the uk. And then when I was working for the railways myself, I was taking myself off at weekends. I commuted to and from work by train. I worked on trains and around trains and then at weekends I traveled by trade everywhere around the uk And I did actually do every single mile of track on the public railway system when I was an apprentice. So we used to tick it off. Doug Collins [00:05:02]: A friend of mine, we used to take it off and I've just built on that knowledge across many different sides of the rail industry, from electrical engineering commissioning, operation size, modific, route modification, work procurement. I've done so much even, even worked in an autumn control when the leaves Tracy Collins [00:05:24]: were falling down, stopping the trains, running stuff and trains. Yeah. So basically you can find us on the podcast, obviously, UK Travel Planet, our websites, UK TravelPlanning.com and London TravelPlanning.com we do have a general travel website as well, Global travel dot com. I would ask that you do support us if you like the podcast and do use the websites. It's getting incredibly difficult now with the changes on Google and AI to actually for our websites to be visible. So thank goodness we have the podcast and, and that you're tuning in and listening that way. We also. On YouTube. Tracy Collins [00:05:55]: Doug's doing a lot on YouTube, aren't you? Doug Collins [00:05:56]: That's right, yeah. So. So what over the last 12 months, really the popular routes and the questions that most people ask or find confusing, I try and cover on a route by route basis as to, you know, some of the nice things to see. It's warts and all, so, you know, things don't always go to plan. And so I'll try and include the. The reality of UK rail travel. Tracy Collins [00:06:18]: Yeah, so that's a bit of a brief introduction and I mean, if you listen to the podcast last week, you'll have listened to a little bit of. A bit more detail about exactly how we can help you plan your trip. But we just thought this week would be a little bit more fun in that we would just kind of, because we get asked all the time, you know, if you could only pick one, what would you recommend? And I mean, I, I ask people this question myself, so we're kind of putting ourselves on the spot. So we've got 10 questions, two opinions because mine and Doug's will be probably quite different. Doug Collins [00:06:45]: Almost definitely. Tracy Collins [00:06:46]: We're not going to cheat. So actually we haven't shared the answers before and so I don't know what Doug's going to say. He has no idea what I'm going to say. So it's going to be interesting to see what we both pick. So, okay, so these are kind of different questions, all about the uk, as I say, different experiences. So the first question, do you want to start with the first one for ask you it or do you want me to answer? Okay, so here you go, Doug, what's your favorite city in the UK outside of London? Doug Collins [00:07:14]: Outside of London. So many have got so much to offer. I think I'm probably gonna have to say York. Tracy Collins [00:07:22]: Okay, so what makes it genuinely different from anywhere else? Doug Collins [00:07:25]: I think it's because York is obviously on the east coast main Line and it's a place I've visited from a very, very young age. My parents used to take us up there and it's home to my favorite museum. I hope that's not requested later. Tracy Collins [00:07:40]: It might be. Doug Collins [00:07:41]: So the National Rail Museum. It's actually the first national museum of any sort outside London. It was. It opened so mid-70s, early-70s. So yeah, we went up there for then. So outside of London, I'll probably say York. Yeah. Tracy Collins [00:07:56]: And of course, I mean historic as well. Doug Collins [00:07:58]: Oh, it's just so much to offer. So many of all ages. I mean, even British people head to York. Tracy Collins [00:08:03]: Yeah. Because I've got the history. Got the Roman walls that surround yourself, Viking history that surrounds York. There's lots of great places to eat, Doug Collins [00:08:12]: not to mention the. The wars of the Roses as well. So later period. It's very pivotal in UK history, full stop. Tracy Collins [00:08:20]: Obviously, you folks just start talking about food. Some really great places to eat and Dr. And some fantastic historic places to stay. We stayed at the Bar Convent 1, which is actually a working convent still, which we really enjoyed. You can eat at the Guy Fawkes Inn is a favorite to eat because again, it was where Guy Fawkes was born. You know, Iguido Fawkes, who tried to blow up Parliament. Doug Collins [00:08:42]: It was Italian. Tracy Collins [00:08:43]: No, it was English. Doug Collins [00:08:45]: There you go. Tracy Collins [00:08:47]: It was born in York. I'm not sure about his heritage. Maybe he was Italian background. But anyway, he tried to blow up the House of Parliament quite a few hundred years ago. But yeah, yeah, so he's quite famous for that. You've got the Viking music, the museums where you got the Viking experience. Doug Collins [00:09:02]: So many museums. Tracy Collins [00:09:03]: So there's a lot and lot to do in senior. So I can understand why you chose York. Doug Collins [00:09:06]: Yeah. Tracy Collins [00:09:07]: And we do have a podcast, episode three, actually, all about York. It's probably about time that we did another one about York because it's a very, very popular episode. Doug Collins [00:09:13]: Well, I'll never come back to the uk, visit the UK without actually going to York at some point, usually to visit the museum. Tracy Collins [00:09:20]: That's true. That's true. Now I guess that same question to myself. What my favorite city in the UK outside of London. I really struggle to answer this question, and I know it's really, really hard, and I kind of. I was thinking, I love Cambridge and I really love bath. I also love York, but I kind of. I'm gonna probably say Edinburgh. Doug Collins [00:09:42]: Edinburgh's special. Tracy Collins [00:09:43]: I do really love going to Edinburgh. There's just something about. And this recent trip. I was in Edinburgh a few weeks ago, and actually for the first time. I know you've done this yourself. I went to Mary King's close. Doug Collins [00:09:54]: That's really cool. Tracy Collins [00:09:55]: Oh, my goodness. The real Americans close. Doug Collins [00:09:57]: Wow. Tracy Collins [00:09:57]: If you had a chance, if you're in Edinburgh, go and check this out, because it. It is literally a time capsule to see how. Because, you know, when you walk down the Royal Mile, you get a feeling for what it was like a couple of hundred years ago to live in Edinburgh and the closest. But you can actually go and see one. You can go. And I'm not going to kind of. I can't remember exactly how it was made, but it was a base of basically like the. The close that the top of it was kind of taken off and building was put on top of it. Tracy Collins [00:10:24]: So you've got what existed underneath and. And that's where you go down these steps and then you go into these rooms that were original. Oh, it's just incredible. But just, you know, Edinburgh Castle, the views over Edinburgh itself. Again, I absolutely enjoyed to have my haggis, snips and teddies when I go to Edinburgh. Edinburgh's been. It's a place that I've been traveling to since I was a small child. So I've got just a lot of memories attached to it. Tracy Collins [00:10:52]: And it's just a. It's a great city to go and explore again. And it doesn't matter how many times I visit Edinburgh, I never run out of. See. Doug Collins [00:10:59]: True, true. Tracy Collins [00:11:01]: In fact, we're going to be there next week and I've already thinking of things that I've not done that I want to go and see and experience. So I would say outside of London, it's probably going to be Edinburgh. We are talking about cities here because it. It would be different if we're looking kind of smaller things. Yeah. But for cities, I would say Edinburgh. And I know a lot of people actually, you know, London, York, Edinburgh is a very, very popular itinerary that people build on. Um, so, yeah, I, I kind of. Tracy Collins [00:11:31]: So York and Edinburgh. Doug Collins [00:11:32]: I think so. Tracy Collins [00:11:33]: That one. Okay. Oh, here's. This is a good one. You ready for question two? Doug Collins [00:11:37]: Got them. Tracy Collins [00:11:38]: What's your favorite day trip from London? So I'm going to wonder if there's a train angle that's going to make your choice particularly good. So what, which one are you going to choose? Because there's lots of great places to go by train. Doug Collins [00:11:50]: You mentioned the place. I like going down to Bath. Not just from Bath itself as a place, but also one if anybody's looked at our website and you know our train itinerary, I like the Great Western train route from Paddington out to that west country to Bristol to Bath. I've always enjoyed doing that one from. Not from years back really. It's one of the first places I thoroughly enjoyed visiting usually most about the trains that were used on that line they just these years ago. But also I like Paddington Station, I like the route and I like Bristol Bath. So it's just, it's a shortest journey. Doug Collins [00:12:29]: It's actually one of my, I think it was one of my first YouTube videos I did actually. So that, that's on there as well. So yeah, I would say possibly Bath from London. Tracy Collins [00:12:40]: And again Bath's got so much to offer. It's actually, it's. I would like just if I'm going to say if you're going to go to Bath, go and stay longer than one day. But it is possible to go on a day. Doug Collins [00:12:49]: Triple hours. Tracy Collins [00:12:52]: Yeah, yeah. So I mean and again Bath Historic is only UNESCO World Heritage city in the uk. Jane Austen connection. The Roman Baths again it's like has a huge amount offer depend, you know, whatever your interest really. And yeah, Bath is a wonderful place to go. We actually have got a couple of podcasts on our top places to visit by train from London for day trips and that there's so many different places that we've actually talked about and so many to choose from. So I guess the question for me is where would I send a first time visitor who has only one day and wants to feel like they've properly left London? Doug Collins [00:13:27]: Is that a separate question? Tracy Collins [00:13:28]: No, it's the same question. What's your favorite day trip from London? And I've done so many different day trips with so many different whether by train independently or whether we've gone out on a company. And I have to say I did do some trips with English Boss. So the podcast, I think it's episode 200. It's either 201 or 199. I'm. No, no, it's just around that 200th episode last month where I've done a few trips out with the English boss. So this is. Tracy Collins [00:13:55]: If you don't, if you don't want to do it yourself, you want to go and be taken out on a tour. I really enjoyed they've got a Stonehenge, bath and secret place. Doug Collins [00:14:05]: Right. Tracy Collins [00:14:05]: And what I really like about that is that you get to see Stonehenge, which is a lot of people want to go and see Stonehenge. I love going to Stonehenge. That's good. It's a great place to go and visit. You get to go and see Bath. So again, like you've talked about, you get that, you get the experience of Bath and the secret place, which I'm not allowed to say where it is because Chris would tell me off. But again that will give you another additional great experience. So that will give you three kind of three different things you can do on a day trip. Tracy Collins [00:14:33]: So that would probably, if you're a first time visit and you want to go and take a day trip out, out of London, which would highly recommend that you do, don't just stay in London, go and do a day trip out. That would be something. Doug Collins [00:14:43]: There's so many choices you've got there. I mean I think my first thought is always trains obviously, but you know the south coast, you've got Brighton or further around you've got the White Cliffs of Dover, good place to visit. You come for the day you can to be another place you can go for the day. You know, it's all very achievable. Tracy Collins [00:15:03]: Windsor, Cambridge, Oxford, the Cotswolds. Honestly, the list. Doug Collins [00:15:09]: Winchester. Tracy Collins [00:15:09]: Winchester, the list. Portsmouth, the list. Brighton, the list can go on and on and on. There are so many and actually really the best way for you to decide so we can give you our recommendation but to be honest, the best way to do this is to actually think about what it is that you want, what, what appeals to you, what are your interests, which is of course what we do when we do consults or we do video reviews is big look at what people's interests are, are and then recommend because we know all these places, we've visited them on multiple times. So we can recommend what we think would be the most interesting destination for you to visit based on what you're interested in. So, so we do do that a lot and obviously help plan that as well if we do it, if we do the one to one consult. So we do that and that's something I guess we can do when we have that conversation and getting what it is that people are very interested in and be able to tailor make it it because we have the experience. And also if you want to do a day trip out. Tracy Collins [00:16:03]: We know the companies, we've done the research and I was actually out on a trip yesterday with my tailored tourism. We're just talking about. Went out with a lovely Wendy who invited me on the tour with yesterday and she's like, people trust what you say. They know that you've done that research and know that the companies that you work with are. They're gonna have a good time. Doug Collins [00:16:20]: Definitely. So. Tracy Collins [00:16:21]: So that's really good. Or question three. This one's just for you. You. It really is just for you. What's your favorite train journey in the uk? Doug Collins [00:16:28]: That's a nightmare question. I've just got so many. Tracy Collins [00:16:33]: Come on. Doug Collins [00:16:35]: I join for so many different reasons. I like train routes as opposed to single journeys. But a single journey. Settle Carlisle over of the Orchard Elves into Cumbria over the Riverhead Viaduct. That special catch it from Leeds because it's settled up to a Carlisle. It's beautiful. In fact, I was going to do it yesterday but the weather closed in the West Highland line from Glasgow to open for William Mallig. That's special. Doug Collins [00:17:04]: That's special. I like it. From Dingle north Inverness up to third zone Wick. But one. Tracy Collins [00:17:13]: This is one train journey multiple. Doug Collins [00:17:17]: Good grief. Tracy Collins [00:17:19]: I mean you can choose a route. You can choose a route. Doug Collins [00:17:21]: I. I'm gonna say Settle Carlisle then really at this moment in time. It's. It's a unique single journey. And that's more in line with what the question is. And that is just both sides of the train. The what is special on that one? The train conducted with the. The freshman troll. Doug Collins [00:17:42]: They give a bit of a chat as you traveling along as well. Which is really unique, I find. Yeah. And their passion for that whole route is something special. And it was so close to closure. But it's rescued by a society to, you know, try and preserve the line. Which is very, very good. So yeah, we'll stick with cell Carlisle in Yorkshire into Cumbria. Tracy Collins [00:18:05]: Eventually. Eventually. Got that out of here. Doug Collins [00:18:07]: Yeah. Don't get me wrong. I love all the others too. Tracy Collins [00:18:10]: Right. For. For. I'm gonna say. Well, I. You know, I think, you know, what I'm gonna say with the journey is actually, you know, the journey is. It's in itself the destination in a way is the Caledonian Sleep. But I love the Caledonian super. Tracy Collins [00:18:23]: I absolutely. I. If I. Especially if I can go in the club room. I particularly like the Caledonia super because that's such a lovely experience. Doug Collins [00:18:31]: Which. Which route are you talking? You talking to Fort William or Inverness, London upwards. Tracy Collins [00:18:37]: So I Would say London to either. To be honest, either Fort William or Inverness. I guess if I had to choose, the one of those trips that I take would probably be the one at Fort William, because I love waking up in the Highlands and, you know, just looking out of the window, just beautiful. Doing the opposite way is not as special because you're arriving in London. I've done that a number of times as well. We're actually on the Caledonian sleeper this week. Yeah, tomorrow, actually. Yeah, tomorrow night again, I was on the Caledonia stick, but a couple of weeks ago I came back. Tracy Collins [00:19:06]: I came that. Actually I did Fort Williams down to Birmingham, because it's now stopping in Birmingham International. Yes. So got off there, which is the first time I've done that. Y. I would say every trip back, we've done at least one or two trips. Doug Collins [00:19:19]: Yeah. Tracy Collins [00:19:19]: Because I love sleeper trains now. Not everybody can sleep on them, so, you know, make sure you. They do provide you with earplugs and a mask and you might need that. Doug Collins [00:19:26]: They are special. I think the. The northbound Highlander is particularly special. We talked about this before. Was it yesterday or today? Yeah, my first experience of doing that one. We could still open the window slightly. And that first experience, I got off at Cranlarick on the west island line before Fort William. And you open those windows and you get the smell of pine, because that was March, April time. Doug Collins [00:19:52]: I first did that one years and years ago. And, yeah, you get the smell of the pie as soon as you open up. It's just a contrast to where you get on the train in the evening in London, Houston, but that's special. But talking to sleepers, last year I did the Night Riviera from Paddington down to Penzance, and that was a special experience for single journey. Tracy Collins [00:20:14]: I haven't done that one yet, so I can't. I can't say that's my favorite, but he did enjoy it. And that. Actually, that video has done extremely well on YouTube, so if you want to actually see about that and what we'll hopefully get a video this time of the Caledonian Sleeper experience. Kind of that question is, is it worth it? We. We think it's absolutely worth it. We love it. Doug Collins [00:20:30]: It is. Tracy Collins [00:20:31]: It's an experience. And again, it's where with that. That experience, the journey itself is really the destination. Yes, you get to a fantastic place, but it's just amazing journey. Doug Collins [00:20:41]: Yeah, it really is. Tracy Collins [00:20:42]: So. And I just do it just to be on the Caledonian sleeper, to be honest. Doug Collins [00:20:45]: Yeah, that's special. Tracy Collins [00:20:46]: I love it. Right, so that's kind of a little wrap up there about trains. Now we're going to talk about one of my favorite things. What's your favorite food or meal you've ever had in the uk? Now, I can't. I guess you can talk about family stuff as well, but kind of. I guess what I'm thinking about is recommending for people who are coming to visit the uk. Doug Collins [00:21:07]: Okay. Tracy Collins [00:21:08]: Something that we've eaten that other people can get access to. Doug Collins [00:21:10]: You. Tracy Collins [00:21:11]: Because I'd love to say my. My grandmother's Sunday roast, which was always the best. Doug Collins [00:21:15]: Actually, our friends in Burton on Trent do the most amazing Sunday lunches. Tracy Collins [00:21:19]: They do as well, but unfortunately, yeah, not everybody's going to get access to that. So when you think about like a dish or a place or a moment or a meal that you think that somebody else would like, really enjoy and we could recommend. Doug Collins [00:21:34]: How long have you got for me to think about this one? Because there's so much falls into that one. I actually. One that's just occurred to me, this was years ago on the Channel end of Guernsey. I had this duck in black cherry sauce. That's the meal that's all stuck in my mind. Tracy Collins [00:21:48]: Right. Doug Collins [00:21:48]: But again, that was a long time ago. Tracy Collins [00:21:50]: But I'm thinking about what would be a meal or food that you've had that somebody else can experience. Actually, I will talk about this one because I particularly like Scotch eggs. Doug Collins [00:22:01]: You do? Tracy Collins [00:22:02]: I love Scotch eggs. So Scotch egg is basically. It's an egg in the center which has been boiled. So boiled egg, then shelled and then it's basically wrapped in sausage. Sausage meat and then breadcrumbs and then fried. And they can be eaten cold or hot. Yeah, they're very good on picnics. So I particularly like Fortnum and Mason. Tracy Collins [00:22:24]: Apparently they were the ones that invented the Scotch egg. So you can go to Fortnum and Mason on the first floor. It's like the ice cream parlor in Fortnum and Mason. But they do serve the Scotch eggs there. Delicious. With piccalilli, which, again, if you've not experienced that, is really good. But I did have that as well on the Taste Tales and Traditional Ales Devour Food tour, which I've done twice now. I did that last month again, and that's one of the. Tracy Collins [00:22:48]: The dishes that you get to taste and I really look forward to. Because the Scotch egg is the last thing that you get to taste on that chair. And I really look forward to it. And actually everybody always says, wow, it is so good. So if you want to actually taste a Bit of British food. That is a good way to do it. And also you'll learn all about the pubs as well. So that's a really good, cool one to do. Tracy Collins [00:23:08]: And if you're in London, you can do that. I am going to throw in. I'm going to cheat. Can I cheat? Doug Collins [00:23:13]: Well, go for it. Yeah. Tracy Collins [00:23:15]: I, I, we. I love Macca's Mashbowl when I'm in Edinburgh because I love my haggis, snoops and teddies. So there's. There's a couple of things there. It's really difficult to. Doug Collins [00:23:25]: I like the fish and chips. We had that time in St Ives. That was delicious. Tracy Collins [00:23:29]: You know what? I think we've cheated on this question. Doug Collins [00:23:31]: It's hard to pick one, isn't it? Tracy Collins [00:23:33]: Favorite food, a meal. Honestly, you've got lots of options. And we do have a podcast about different foods. We've got an article about different foods. So if you want to try some traditional British foods, take a look at that. Honestly, there's so many different places across the uk, your best bet is to really go online and just check reviews because we unfortunately, much as I'd like to, I haven't eaten. I can't eat in every possible restaurant in the uk. Doug Collins [00:23:54]: No, that's true. Tracy Collins [00:23:57]: But yes, I think food. We could talk about that for an entire episode. In fact, we are going to talk about Sunday roast and afternoon teas in a future episode. Doug Collins [00:24:05]: I like going back to food. I'm a great one for Victoria sponge cakes. Tracy Collins [00:24:10]: Everybody knows that. Doug Collins [00:24:11]: Everybody knows. Tracy Collins [00:24:11]: In fact, when I was out yesterday and we were looking at cake, Wendy who was out. Yes, yes. She looked and she went, oh, good. Like, there's a Victoria sponge cake. Everybody knows. Doug Collins [00:24:19]: Yeah, it's a sponge cake with do cream or jam in the. Or cream and jam in the inside, a bit of icing sugar on top. It's quite a basic cake, but when it's done properly with a nice cup of tea, it is special beyond belief. Tracy Collins [00:24:32]: Excellent. Oh, another thing I'm going to just throw in, there is a jacket potato as well, because we have jacket. I had jacket potato yesterday and apparently in place that America, it's not considered to be a whole meal. Well, we can have that as a whole meal because you have it with you. I had it with baked beans and cheese, coleslaw and salad. Doug Collins [00:24:47]: Yeah, I have it with a Cajun salad sometimes. Tracy Collins [00:24:49]: So again, we could talk for an entire episode and never get to question Doug Collins [00:24:53]: five because I said the word spud. A spud is a potato. Yes. Another potato Worth potato. Yes. Tracy Collins [00:24:58]: But we're gonna kind of pivot away from food and we're gonna ask your favorite church or cathedral. There's so many to go and see. Doug Collins [00:25:07]: I know this one because it's actually on my consciousness in the last few days because it came up somewhere else I mentioned to get the Channel island of Guerns. It's. There's a little chapel and it was made early 20th century, I think it was, by a monk who. It's based on lords in. In France. And it's made. It's this miniature. It's a tiny miniature church, but it's been coated with shells and broken glass and pottery and things. Doug Collins [00:25:34]: It's very special and it's all up in the like a royal area. It's very special. If you go to Guernsey, I mean, you've not been to Guernsey, I don't think. Tracy Collins [00:25:44]: No. A bit Jersey. Doug Collins [00:25:46]: If we get there, we'll take you to have a look at that. It's very special. It's called the Little chapel. Tracy Collins [00:25:50]: And also I want us to mention that's a bailiwick of the uk. So. Yes, yes. Do you want to explain why that is? Doug Collins [00:25:55]: A bailiwick is an independent state, but still under the sort of crown cover of the uk. Tracy Collins [00:26:04]: But they have that low on tax, which is why a lot of rich people gonna live there. Yeah. So I actually went to Jersey. Doug Collins [00:26:10]: It's still considered by many to be part of. But you know, if you're being pedantic though, it's not. Tracy Collins [00:26:17]: Okay. Doug Collins [00:26:18]: Yeah. Tracy Collins [00:26:19]: Right. So is there one that you want to specifically say about in the UK rather than Guernsey? Doug Collins [00:26:24]: Okay. Souls was pretty special. Yeah, very nice. Tracy Collins [00:26:29]: Yeah. It's got the highest, tallest spire and it's also got the Magna Carta Carter in it as well. Yeah. Doug Collins [00:26:35]: So now it's because I like Salisbury's nice. It's a nice place to visit, actually one, a little obscure one is Litchfield near Birmingham, because I work that way for a little while and that's one of the, I'll say lesser known cathedrals. I don't mean that in the fact that it's any less of a cathedral. It's just not one talked about so often. And that's a pretty one. Tracy Collins [00:26:56]: That's true. Well, I'm going to choose Winchester. Doug Collins [00:26:59]: Winchester. Tracy Collins [00:27:00]: So Winchester Cathedral was the biggest. Largest cathedral in Europe for quite a while. It's. It is massive. Doug Collins [00:27:06]: It is. Tracy Collins [00:27:07]: It is impressive. Doug Collins [00:27:08]: Yeah. And it was sinking at one point. Tracy Collins [00:27:10]: Yeah, it was. And this guy went dived underneath and kind of shored it up you can go and see the diving helmet that he wore and how he showed it up. This is the 1800s. I think he did it. Doug Collins [00:27:20]: Yeah. Tracy Collins [00:27:22]: No, I'm not sure, but Jane Austen's buried there. It's a very impressive cathedral. It was the cathedral that. Where William the Conqueror was crowned. Doug Collins [00:27:33]: Oh, that's right. Tracy Collins [00:27:34]: Yeah. It's. It's just impressive. Doug Collins [00:27:37]: So it got some story of the Civil War with horses inside as the cathedral as well. Something. Tracy Collins [00:27:43]: I think. I think that might be Bath happy, but I might be wrong. Doug Collins [00:27:47]: Maybe more than one. Yeah. Some expert can give us feedback on that one, please. Tracy Collins [00:27:52]: I know. Maybe see this? You can tell the sad hog because it's. Now I'm trying to think. Doug Collins [00:27:55]: Yeah. Tracy Collins [00:27:56]: Because there are quite a lot to. To visit, but I just think I've been in Winchester quite a few times. If you're Jane Austen fan, it's an absolute must because that's where she's buried. Anyway. Doug Collins [00:28:05]: I'm allowed to choose two. I just think Canterbury. Tracy Collins [00:28:09]: Yeah. Doug Collins [00:28:09]: Canterbury is seriously special. Tracy Collins [00:28:11]: Yep. Well, you know, we do have a lot of churches and a lot of cathedrals, so there's lots to choose from. I mean, I know you've actually recently climbed up Bath Abbey to. To see the view of Bath, which was amazing. You've climbed York Minster to have a look at that as well. The. The, you know, St Giles in Edinburgh is beautiful. Beautiful church. Tracy Collins [00:28:32]: There's just so. There's so many and they see only supposed to choose one and I'm chucking out loads. Doug Collins [00:28:36]: Yeah, me too. Tracy Collins [00:28:37]: But there are some beautiful churches and cathedrals to visit. But I think I just love Winchester. Just. It's a. It's a beautiful smaller city to visit. It's a city because it's got a cathedral. But in that it's an easy day trip from London as well. Doug Collins [00:28:50]: It is. So Canterbury. Tracy Collins [00:28:52]: Yeah. So what kind of. All of these questions are all melded into everything kind of see how everything is interconnected? Okay, so question six. What's your favorite castle? Doug Collins [00:29:02]: Oh, good grief. Is this in London or outside London? Tracy Collins [00:29:07]: Anywhere. Anywhere in the uk. Doug Collins [00:29:09]: Well, the Tower of London has to be up there. Everybody's really, because that's such an attraction. But outside London I have to. It's gonna have to be one in Wales. It's gonna be Carnarvon or Conway. They are both magical, fantastic places. Tracy Collins [00:29:24]: And you did a trip to North Wales a few years ago, didn't you? Doug Collins [00:29:27]: Yeah. Traveled around my public transport. Lots of trains, obviously. Yeah. Widfer on the cable car. Snowdonia Snowdonia. Sorry. Yeah. Doug Collins [00:29:40]: But yeah, castle wise because I love Conway as well. Not just a little village there. It's. It's really special. But yeah, Canolvin and Conway castles. Tracy Collins [00:29:49]: Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna say Tower of London. Yeah. I don't think you can avoid the telephone. I think you should visit the Tower London. Please don't just walk past the front of it because you're not going to have any idea. And I've heard that people. So I'm just gonna drive past. Well, don't bother. Doug Collins [00:30:01]: Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna promote Wales here. Don't forget Wales because there's such a lot to offer. Tracy Collins [00:30:07]: No, that's true. But if you are in London, seriously, go and visit the child London. Go into the Tower of London, go and meet one of the yeoman warders. You can ask them questions. If you want a special treat, you Ceremony of the child London. You can do the ceremony of the keys which is a closing ceremony of the child London. I've wrote about those, both of those ceremonies because they're brilliant. I've done them both. Tracy Collins [00:30:30]: We've done them both a few times, haven't we? Really good. But if you, you know, you can just go in, have. Give yourself a good three or four hours to explore the Tower of London. You're going to need that length of time. The White Tower is the, is the central. As you go in the ton, you're going to see this like a white castle. That is the original castle built by William the Conqueror. So that's original and everything else is kind of built around it. Tracy Collins [00:30:53]: You can go into the chapel. That's where Anne Boleyn was buried. You can see there's just so much to see. This graffiti that was written by prisoners which are kept in the Tower of London. It's really interesting and very accessible, especially if you're in London to go and visit. So I would say that outside of London because I'm going to cheat as well. Yeah, outside of London. Outside of London go Northumberland. Tracy Collins [00:31:17]: So I'm originally from Northumberland which is the northern northernmost county of the uk. It's got the most castles of any other really has any other county in the uk. We come in because we were kind of invaded from the north, invaded from the sea by the Vikings. So we had to have all these kind of these castles to protect ourselves. Doug Collins [00:31:34]: Most of the ones in Wales will protect the Welsh from the English. Tracy Collins [00:31:36]: Yeah. So yeah, it's true. I would say so Anit Castle, Bamboo Castle. There's Just so many castles to visit. Doug Collins [00:31:43]: Yeah, there's a lot up there. That's true. Tracy Collins [00:31:45]: Yeah, absolutely. So that's what I say. Now. Question seven. I'm gonna answer this one. Doug Collins [00:31:51]: Go first. Tracy Collins [00:31:52]: What's your favorite wildlife or landscape experience in the uk? Well, I am gonna, I can't not hark back to my recent trip when I stayed on the Isle of Mull and I took out a, a tour to go to Lunga to see the puffins. I've been wanting to see puffins, bearing in mind I grew in Northumberland. I hadn't seen puffins before and we do have puffins of the Northeast. I had not seen puffins. So I went on this day trip out on the boat from Tobermory to the island of Longa to see puffins and they were so cute. They are so much smaller than you would imagine, I thought, I think, for some reason, I have no idea, I kind of thought they were kind of penguin size, but they're not. They are tiny. Tiny cute. Tracy Collins [00:32:36]: And they're so, they love people because when people are around it means that the predator birds won't come in and try and, you know, get them or their eggs or their chicks. So they actually like it when people are. So I say that was my, that's probably my all time favorite wildlife experience. Landscapes I can talk about. I'm not. Doug Collins [00:32:57]: Two questions. Tracy Collins [00:32:58]: It is, it is, it is a bit of a, it's a bit difficult one, but I, I, it's kind of wildlife or your landscape? So I've gone for the wildlife. What are you going to go for for wildlife? Doug Collins [00:33:07]: Because I've had a few months to think about that one. Years ago, I was driving in the Highlands in Scotland and I came to a T junction. T junction is where obviously two rows meet. Right in front of me, literally about seven or seven or eight feet away from me was a golden eagle sitting on a post. Tracy Collins [00:33:25]: Wow. Doug Collins [00:33:27]: And it was a. Wow. That's big. Tracy Collins [00:33:30]: Yes. Doug Collins [00:33:31]: And we just obviously waited a few seconds over someone else and. Yeah. And it was a lovely summer. Sunny day and that. No, it wasn't summer, it was April, so that was earlier than that. But it was the summer shine. And there's this massive golden eagle just sitting on a post on a fence watching the world go by. Tracy Collins [00:33:52]: And you can see it in Scotland. Actually, I did see them on the island of Mull as well. Golden eagles. Doug Collins [00:33:56]: Oh, that was beautiful. But from a landscape experience, I, Yeah. Also the West Highlands is stunning. I think the views of the White Cliffs to dovah always Seem pretty special. But I'm going to go for. I've mentioned over Snowdonia it would for driving around that area there and oh, it's just stunning scenery everywhere. Tracy Collins [00:34:20]: Well, landscape wise, I'm going to go up to Scotland again, so. And the Island Mall is amazing. But I've just been at Harrison Lewis and the Isle of Harris is like something I've never seen before. But it kind of harks me back as well to kind of do that. North Coast 500 in the far north of Scotland. It's like nowhere else on earth. I think it's beautiful. Doug Collins [00:34:39]: Well, it's contrast in North Scotland. Yeah. Tracy Collins [00:34:42]: And I guess I'm gonna have to mention Glencoe because that just every time I go to Glencoe that moves me. It really does. I just absolutely love it. So we're really cheating. We're supposed to be choosing one because Doug Collins [00:34:51]: there isn't any one, is it? Tracy Collins [00:34:53]: It's really, really difficult. Yeah, really difficult. Actually. Question eight might be a little bit easier for me. Doug Collins [00:34:58]: Go on then. Tracy Collins [00:34:58]: And maybe easier for you. I'm actually. So what is your favorite museum? Doug Collins [00:35:02]: Oh, that's easy for me. Tracy Collins [00:35:03]: Go on then, go for it. Doug Collins [00:35:04]: National Railway Museum in New York. It just goes without saying. National Railway Museum nrm. There's now more than one. But it was the first. I think I've mentioned it was the first national museum of any sort outside London. And just never go through York without getting off the train and absolutely having a visit. Tracy Collins [00:35:25]: I know. Doug Collins [00:35:26]: I mean, so how many different developments over the years? But it's right next to the station and yeah, it's almost my second haven when I was working around there, when I was at the railway, when I traveled up and down the country. Never failed to go into the National Railway Museum in York. Tracy Collins [00:35:42]: So that's definitely your choice. And I know, I don't know how many times you've been. Because every time I go to York you want to go and you do Doug Collins [00:35:47]: go dozens of times. Tracy Collins [00:35:48]: It's a bit like me for London when I come in and I know Doug Collins [00:35:50]: what you're gonna say. Tracy Collins [00:35:51]: You know, I'm gonna say the vna, everybody who knows me and listen, they're gonna say that I absolutely love the vna. And a good point again. I was having a discussion the other day do somebody said I don't want to come from my country to do. To see things that I can see anyway in my own country. So something like the Natural History Museum perhaps if you've got something similar and you're currently. You don't want to do that. You won't have a vna. You won't have a Victorian Albert Museum. Tracy Collins [00:36:12]: And I was asked my favorite things to do and see in the VNA and it's definitely going to be the Casp Courts. Again, I absolutely love the. The cascorts are just absolutely my favorite. And in fact I think if we get time, I'm not going to actually mention anything else that I really like in the V and A because I. That we're gonna. I'm hopefully gonna do a bit of a video so I can show people what my top favorite things are. My galleries that I like to go to, the particular exhibitions that I like to go and see. Yes, Tea rooms are beautiful. Tracy Collins [00:36:39]: I get, they can get very crowded though. But, but the beautiful Art Deco. Yes. And the tea rooms, the specific things that I recommend go and see it. Unfortunately the fashion is closed at the minute until next year because I always love the fashion. Doug Collins [00:36:51]: And also you mentioned the VNA part of our trip in Scotland. We're going to go to the other vna, Dundee. Tracy Collins [00:36:58]: Yeah, yeah. And there's actually a new one as well in London that I haven't managed to get to which has got a David Bower collection. So I'd like to go and see that. I actually I'm a member of the vna so we need to try and fit a bit more VNA in and because we're doing an episode hopefully in a couple of months time about the lesser known museums that'll be good in London that we're talking about. So we've got the Postman Museum to my Postal Museum. Doug Collins [00:37:23]: Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. Tracy Collins [00:37:24]: Charles Dickens Museum, Florence Nightingale Museum, some of the other smaller museums in London that you might be interested in. I guess there's quite a few is. There are a lot. And I guess that new VNA1 will come into that as well because whenever anybody thinks of the vna, they think about the one in South Kensington. So we'll, we'll. I think we'll cover that. So do. If you're interested in museums in London, we have got a recent podcast where we go through the top 10. Tracy Collins [00:37:47]: But they are like the more famous museums. Doug Collins [00:37:49]: Quite a few of my fear. Tracy Collins [00:37:50]: Yeah, yeah. Well VA is free except if you go. Go to an exhibition. I went to the Marianne Tonette exhibition a couple months ago because I'm a member. I didn't need to pre book a ticket because they sold out. Doug Collins [00:38:01]: So the British Museum, they have a few bits and pieces on. Tracy Collins [00:38:04]: Yeah, yeah. Well British Museum Coming up is going to be the Bayo Tapestry from September. I'd love to be here to see that. So if you want to see the Bayo Tapestry, so basically, once in a lifetime opportunity to see it in the uk, that is going to be at the British Museum later this year, but you'll have to pay for that. But if you're interested in that, I check that out now. Doug Collins [00:38:22]: Yes. Tracy Collins [00:38:23]: And get, get your tickets for that. That's, I think September. I'm not quite sure when it runs to next year, but it starts September. Right. Let's talk about question nine. What is your favorite season to visit the uk? Not when we lived here, but when we come to visit, what would be the same season? Doug Collins [00:38:40]: I mean, when we lived here, I used to grow lots of vegetables and whatever. So it was always a good season for growing, you know, because I grew everything from seed. Tracy Collins [00:38:50]: Seed. Doug Collins [00:38:50]: So yeah, spring months are fantastic. And that's not changed for visiting. To me, I like daffodils and then towards the end the tulips and the other spring flowers, bluebells, snowdrops. I. I just love seeing those. And it's just like the new season. I just think it's nice, nice to visit as well. Tracy Collins [00:39:13]: It's quiet as well. Doug Collins [00:39:14]: The weather can be a little bit variable, but then it can be, be. Tracy Collins [00:39:18]: You know, we're in summer at the minute and it's just variable as well. I think the thing is about spring is it's quite. If you maybe May, I think would be the month, I would say out of the spring season that is probably the best. Actually. May wasn't too bad, weather wise as well. But it's less crowded. That's right outside that. There is a week's holiday in the UK and there's two public holidays in May. Tracy Collins [00:39:39]: So you do have to check that if you want to come in May. But May is, is a good season to visit. Doug Collins [00:39:45]: It really is. But I was last year I was here towards autumn months and some of the autumn colors were absolutely stunning. So it's a difficult one. But I think, I think spring just edges it for me. Tracy Collins [00:39:58]: So I'm gonna go for autumn because I really like September. So heading into the September, October, you know, into autumn. Change of the. The leaves are beautiful. It can still be warm, which is what's really nice. It's also quieter. The kids have gone back to school. Doug Collins [00:40:14]: School, yeah. Tracy Collins [00:40:15]: There's no public holidays in September, so you don't have to worry about that. There's no kind of major events like, you know, any I'm just thinking about if you come to London in April and you've got the London Marathon, there's lots of things going in June, you've got the treatment of the color. There's not any, you know, got Wimbledon come up in July. There's not any major, as far as I'm aware, major, major events in September. So it's a kind of nice quieter month, warmer month, less tourist here, month to go. Doug Collins [00:40:40]: I was here in September last year and it was just, just so yeah, it was nice. Tracy Collins [00:40:44]: Yeah, yeah. So I would say, I'd say September, I am going to throw a little mention in because that winter, I wouldn't recommend January, February, it's dark, it's colder. But if you are kind of thinking winter months then, you know, it is beautiful here in December with all the Doug Collins [00:40:59]: Christmas decorations, something to offer through you and I mean if you can own, if you're not, you know, if you don't have much of a choice when you do visit and you know, for whatever reason you have to come at X time time, there is something, there's, you know, there's, there's places you can visit to get the best of it. Tracy Collins [00:41:16]: Absolutely. Well, actually we've just had a couple of weeks ago, just had the podcast out about things doing summer and we've looked at five different regions of the uk. We have that episode as well for spring for those different five regions all the way from far north of Scotland down to Devon. We've talked to experts from each of the different regions. So we've got the spring episode, we've got a summer episode just out. We will be doing an autumn and winter episode with on those final five parts of the UK as well. So if you're interested in thinking or I'm going to actually be visiting in the autumn, fall, I'm going to be visiting the winter. Those are episodes that are worth listening out to because we've got the actual experts from each of the regions to tell you what are the best things to do and see and not things not to miss. Tracy Collins [00:41:53]: Yeah, those have been very, very popular episodes. Yeah. So the last question is the hardest one. Doug Collins [00:42:02]: Go on then. Tracy Collins [00:42:03]: Oh, okay. You ready for this one? Because it's hard. God, I, I had a sneak peek so I'm almost. If you could, if you could only take a first time visit to one place in the uk, a city region, experience whatever you want, what would it be and why? It's a hard one. Doug Collins [00:42:25]: I'm gonna say Chatsworth, Chatsworth House in the P district in Derbyshire, because that's close to where I'm from. Chatsworth is just so quintessentially, I'm gonna say British. Not just English, but British. It's just if you get on the right day, it's a stunning house, stunning gardens, and the whole area of the Peak district is the UK's first, maybe in the world's first national park. And it's just stunning from one side to the other. But Chatsworth House is just. Just ticks that box for something so quintessential and British. Tracy Collins [00:43:05]: Okay, well, I'm choosing a region. Doug Collins [00:43:08]: Yeah. Tracy Collins [00:43:09]: And this is actually not an easy choice because I know it's a very, very touristed area, but it's very touristed area for a reason. And that's the Cotswolds. The Cotswolds are so big area, though. It is. It is a big area. We've had Lisa from Go Cotswolds have been on the podcast, I think about five times now, talking about different areas and things to do and what to see and how to get around the Cotswolds. But the Cotswolds are kind of quintessentially English. I guess that's my word. Doug Collins [00:43:36]: You gotta find your own. Tracy Collins [00:43:37]: Well, sorry, but they are. And it's true. I. I myself, particularly if. I guess this is when you're visiting the spring, summer is. I love going places like Hidka Gardens. Doug Collins [00:43:48]: Yeah. Tracy Collins [00:43:48]: So it hits it, man. And the gardens are just beautiful. And you've got kiff skate for the roses opposite. You've got, you know, the. Just the beautiful. Now, Thatch isn't actually something that really associated with the Cotswolds because they're more stone roof. You have thatch cottages as well, with the roses around the door. It's one of those things if I ever want to like. Tracy Collins [00:44:08]: You'd have to win probably more than a million actually on the lottery. You'd have to win quite a few million to be able to afford a house in the Crosswalls. Doug Collins [00:44:14]: It's very picture postcard, it really. Tracy Collins [00:44:16]: Yeah, it really is. And actually I was having this discussion yesterday and we're sort of saying if, which. Which village in the Cotswolds would you live in? And I'd have to say I'd probably have to. To ask the tourists to leave. But I just love Bybury. Yeah. Barbie's lovely. But again, it's too many people going and I guess it's. Doug Collins [00:44:34]: I don't know if I could live in a place called Slaughter maybe. Tracy Collins [00:44:40]: Yeah. Doug Collins [00:44:41]: As beautiful as it is. No Offense to anybody lives around there. But slaughter. Tracy Collins [00:44:46]: It doesn't mean what you think it means. Doug Collins [00:44:47]: No, no it doesn't though. Tracy Collins [00:44:48]: It's a, it's an old English word. So lower slaughter, Upper slaughter. Yeah. There's some beautiful. Stowe is gorgeous. I think probably the Cotswolds. That's where I'd take somebody for a week and do a tour around the Cotswolds and, and do that. And I think, you know, again, I'm going to. Tracy Collins [00:45:05]: So I'm going to say second and third choice. Second show probably somewhere down in Cornwall because Cornwall is beautiful. Doug Collins [00:45:10]: It really is. Tracy Collins [00:45:11]: Third choice would be. And these are actually in. No, no order really. I kind of think all of these. Northumberland Peak District put loads. Doug Collins [00:45:20]: Some of those villages in Highland as well. I've got family up towards killing and you know, that area, it's just stunning. Now West Highlands, Scotland is just such a stunning area. Tracy Collins [00:45:31]: I think. You know what my conclusion from this question is. We're trying to pick out one place to take a first time visitor and I think it's just about impossible. So we understand if you are planning your trip to the uk, you are kind of going, oh my goodness, I want to go to Coswells. I want to go to Far north Scotland. I want to go to Edinburgh, I want to go to Cornwall, I want to go to Wales. Yeah, it's just about. Is it possible to do all of that in one trip? We've lived, lived here for multiple years and years and years and haven't managed to see every single place I've been Doug Collins [00:45:59]: where the trains go, but yeah, not some of the areas not accessible. Tracy Collins [00:46:02]: Yeah. So that, that's, you know, and that's with, with decades of experience. So when it comes to when you're sitting it's easy to get overwhelmed. And a lot of people have said when they sit and use AI and they start trying to put stuff together, it's. They get overwhelmed because it gives you get too much information. Doug Collins [00:46:18]: Total overwhelm. Tracy Collins [00:46:19]: Overwhelm. And again, I know it sounds like I'm kind of, of, you know, saying this a lot but honestly, if you are sitting trying to put together your itinerary and you've, you've gone and you've done something on AI and you're sitting going, oh my goodness, does this make any sense? Is this actually what I want to do? Your best but honesty is to talk to myself and Doug really genuinely between us, between us. Doug Collins [00:46:38]: We're not, you know, places we've been individually, you know, places together. Tracy Collins [00:46:43]: We've seen a lot. But also it's ability to actually listen to what you want from your true trip. What, you know, what are you interested in. Well, yeah, exactly. So. And also gives you just too much information, too much contradictory information. You kind of go down a rabbit hole, you know, having that discussion, that time to spend. So we can help you put together an itinerary that's going to work for you and, and it's not going to be exhausting. Tracy Collins [00:47:05]: You're not going to be rushing around like, you know, mad things, trying to fit everything. Doug Collins [00:47:08]: We'll tell you if it's achievable. Yeah, we really will. Tracy Collins [00:47:11]: So anyway, that's kind of a bit of a plug for us. But there's a reason when I say that because, you know, we hear this all the time and because, you know, just us answering these questions, how hard it is to pick one thing. Doug Collins [00:47:22]: But you gather, listen that you know, we've experienced a lot. Tracy Collins [00:47:26]: Yeah, absolutely. So hopefully this has given you a little bit of taste of things that we really enjoy. We do get asked that all the time. You know, what, what should I not miss? What city should I go to? What castle? What. What is it that you love? What are those things to do? And as I say, it's been a very, very interesting, very difficult to come up with us. Doug Collins [00:47:43]: Apologies for the ums and the. Because we didn't know what the questions Tracy Collins [00:47:46]: were to start with with so you had to think about them on the hop and it's. They're not easy. So anyway, and actually to be honest, if you asked us these questions six months time, we may come up with a different. Doug Collins [00:47:54]: Oh, indeed, sir, that's right. Tracy Collins [00:47:56]: But anyway, that's it for this week's episode of the podcast. Episode 206. Next week is part two of my Scottish Islands adventure. So it'll be talking about my trip to Mull and Iona which I did solo, how I got around what I did and some tips if you're planning to. To visit those beautiful islands, Scottish islands. But for this week's episode, if you'd like to get in touch, say leave us a message on Speak Pipe. Share this with anybody that you know that might be possible visit in the uk. Doug Collins [00:48:26]: In fact, share your answers to these same questions. Tracy Collins [00:48:28]: Yes, that's really interesting. Yeah. Really want to know what would be your turn or what? What do you think if you haven't been in the uk, what do you think are those things that you want to do and see that you know that you're. You're anticipating because Obviously you're going to pick out the things that really appeal to you. Yeah, definitely. But I guess that just leaves us to say though. Until next week, Happy UK Travel Planning. Thank you for tuning in to this week's episode of the UK Travel Planning Podcast. Tracy Collins [00:48:55]: As always, show notes can be found@uktravelplanning.com if you've enjoyed the show, why not leave us feedback via text or a review on your favorite podcast app? We love to hear from you. And you never know, you may receive a shout out in the future episode. But as always, that just leaves me to say, until next week, Happy UK Travel Planning.